Episode 21 of the Wise Men Say podcast, in association with A Love Supreme, is now live!

We’re joined in the studio by another débutante; Sportsbyte contributor Jack Shields, as well as The The Evening Chronicle’s James Hunter. We talk about Sunderland’s 1-1 draw at Swansea, and look ahead to QPR with Steve Colwell.

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