Mick and new(ish) WMS podder Jonathan are in an Edinburgh pub. Does a defeat here mean anything? Does it? If any team deserve some bigger-picture

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and WMS debutant Jonathan Ellenor to discuss Sunderland’s first pre-season friendly of 25-26 and to chat about some

Stephen and Rick catch up with transfer guru Sacha Tavolieri to chat about Sunderland’s movements in the European market, including the latest on Djordje Petrovic

Stephen catches up with Cyril Olives from L’Equipe and Jeremy Beren from That Atleti Pod to talk about Habib Diarra and Reinildo Mandava respectively. HOW

Stephen catches up with Cyril Olives from L’Equipe and Jeremy Beren from That Atleti Pod to talk about Habib Diarra and Reinildo Mandava respectively. HOW

The second part of our wide-ranging chat with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid as we discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats,

In this all-new episode, we meet up with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid and discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats, including

Think Terry Butcher. Blood and bandages, Italia 90, Glasgow Rangers and their English invasion, Bobby Robson’s Ipswich. He also played for and managed the lads

Over on our Patreon, Rick and Gareth react as Sunderland’s Premier League fixtures are revealed. Click here to subscribe to Wise Men Say Extra  

We’ve delved back into the archives to bring you the second in the Meet the Manager series – today, it’s Malcolm Crosby’s turn. Malcolm speaks